Dating – Part 2 - Submarines & Zombies

Dating. You can speed date. You can online date. You can date smarter. Your next date can be just a swipe away. You can find your soul mate, make real connections, or immediately streamline your dating life.  As I read somewhere online, “Love is messy, but technology can be perfect.”

Wikipedia defines dating as a process “whereby two people meet socially with the aim of each assessing the other's suitability as a prospective partner in a future intimate relationship.” It “refers to two people exploring whether they are romantically or sexually compatible by participating in dates with the other. With the use of modern technology, people can date via telephone or computer or arrange to meet in person.” Thing is, at some point, the two people involved will have to meet in person and there’s the rub because in actual versus virtual life, as we discussed last time, dating can lead to all kinds of bad behaviors and complications.

In Part One, we talked mostly about ghosting and mosting, and why some people like dating while others, not so much. Ghosting is about someone you’ve dated or maybe just even talked to who suddenly disappears off the face of the Earth without any explanation and are never to be heard from again. It is cowardly and disrespectful behavior. Mosting includes all of the goodies contained in ghosting but in the process you get told, sometimes repeatedly, that you are all that and a bag of chips in an attempt to manipulate you and then they vanish. Good times. Right?

But wait. There’s more. You can be submarined or zombied. If you’ve been submarined, the person who ghosted you suddenly pops back up, like a submarine suddenly surfacing, in your life but you get no explanation as to why they disappeared. If you get zombied, as in they have suddenly returned from the dead, it is much the same as being submarined but you get some sort of an explanation as to why they bailed on you – work or family issue or whatever.

Just like with ghosting and/or mosting, many of us have behaved this way at some point in time. In considering why someone would submarine or zombie someone, I wonder if they pop back up to check-in to kind of verify whether they made the right decision in disappearing in the first place. You thought things were going fine and then they are gone. Maybe now they are having a weak moment and reestablish contact to ascertain that things were as they remember them and, therefore, at least in their mind, they were justified in their behavior. Or maybe they began to question their perceptions of their feelings about you or your feelings about them or how they thought the relationship was going or how you thought the relationship was going and rather than wondering if they did the right thing, they show back up to find out for themselves.

An alternative version of this might be that they realize that they’d made a mistake and want to give it another go. It might be hard for the you to ever trust them again, so, if they show up to see if maybe the relationship really could have legs, it could be a tough road to travel. But it is possible. Perhaps they were secretly hoping that you were devastated and are showing back up to see just how terrible life was for you without them. Or, especially with the mosters, they want something else from you, even if that something is just attention.

As we discussed in my post and podcast, “Being Liked as a Manipulation,” getting attention from someone puts us on equal footing. And nothing sends people over the edge like being ignored or ghosted. In their mind, if they can get you to give them attention once again, then possibly their disappearing act wasn’t really all that bad or harmful. Well, yes it was.

Are you being stalked or do they want to sit in judgment of you and your life? Or are they just fishing for details of your life out of prurient interest? Perhaps they are one of those folks for whom the grass is always greener somewhere else. If they can get you to like or date or love them, well hell, they can probably get someone even taller, prettier, younger, richer, better body, whatever, to like them. Then they find out that their newest intended ain’t all that and they resurface in your life.

The zombies will at least offer some plausible excuse. Could have been an illness or job loss that they were embarrassed about at the time or a family issue. We all have big, unforeseen problems come up at inopportune times in life, so why the secrecy? Unless they were in jail or in a coma, some sort of explanation should still have happened.

The real issues with a lot of bad dating behavior is that it tells you the perpetrator wants to believe that their actions really have/had no impact on you or on others. This is a common human delusion that we see in personal as well as professional relationships. The mistaken belief that the decisions made and the actions taken have no impact on anyone. That is nonsense. None of us live in a vacuum. And especially in a dating or friendship relation where things are so personal (versus a business decision or business relationship), things we say and do, the actions we do or don’t take, the compassion, consideration, kindness, patience, interest, shown or not shown, has impact.

Submarining and zombieing, just like ghosting and mosting, say a great deal about the person doing the activity and nothing about you if you are the one at sufferance of their bad behavior. Certainly, if someone just reappears, call them on it and set some very clear boundaries with them. You want to date a peer, someone with some maturity, not a child who thinks vanishing, with or without explanation, is the solution to the complexities of dating. If they disappeared because they have issues with love or commitment or friendship or the give-and-take of relationships or being vulnerable is a bridge too far, fine. Let them be who they are. Just make it clear they can’t act any or all their issues out in any kind of relationship with you.

In Part Three of this series, we will discuss orbiting, holding space & hardballing.

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Attention vs Affection

Attention and affection are both very important needs but they are different. Be clear as to which you are seeking and why.

Attention is a big deal. It is in the giving and receiving of attention that we become equal in one another’s eyes. If I pay attention to you or you to me, that means we have decided that this person is worth the time and effort and acknowledgment that attention provides. Nothing drives people up a wall faster than being ignored. It is certainly one of my pet peeves. There is an eyeglass store in Midtown Atlanta that has been in its location for a number of years now. Every time I have been in that store, none of the sales people have ever bothered to acknowledge my existence. Doesn’t matter how I am dressed, the time of day, nor the placement of the stars in the heavens.

We all want attention. We all seek attention. Why? Because it provides a sort of validation from others that in their eyes, we are worth them paying attention to. And as you have seen, in our current world, it seems like everyone is seeking to stand out and garner, and in many cases monetize the attention, recognition and validation they are getting, mostly via social media. Others use social media to hookup. They want the attention that provides, as long as it is “no strings attached” but the minute emotion, affection enters the picture, they move on despite the fact that what they are most likely seeking on a deeper level, is true affection.

Conversely, others of us, mostly us introverts, do not like attention or being in the spotlight. For many years I actively practiced hiding in plain sight and am still quite adept at being invisible, especially in a crowded room, in contrast to the people who strive to be the center of attention. They feed off the energy that the attention provides them, whereas for me, I find it exhausting after a while. I prefer operating quietly, behind the scenes, and am very effective in that role of making things happen without it having to be all about me. We shun the spotlight but that does not mean we shun accomplishment.

But regardless of whether you are a person who actively seeks attention, or welcomes it in limited quantities on occasion, or you do your best to avoid it, it is always – ALWAYS – useful to look at what you pay attention to in your life. The things you feed your attention to tend to grow and the things/people/places/activities we withhold attention from tend to wither and fall away in our lives. Do you only give attention to getting more and more attention or do you give attention, for example, to things like the important relationships in your life? Hard to do when you are constantly giving your attention to your phone. Just sayin’.

Do you give attention to needs like what makes you feel safe and secure in life – physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually? Do you give attention to generating a real sense of self-esteem from within or do you get caught in the insatiable and impossible task of seeking it from others?  Do you pay attention to your need to be really creative – rather than just pumping out content to stay relevant on social media? Do you give attention to creating and producing substantive accomplishments or are you relying on whatever captures your attention at the time? Needless to say, attention to self and one’s deeper needs like self-esteem, like being creative and being productive, is not only important but is paramount. Those deeper needs do not go away even when we get the dopamine hit that momentary attention provides.

We all need love and happiness; and passion and compassion; and hope and trust; and the thrill, the eagerness, excitement, the enthusiasm of just being alive. We also want to feel optimistic about our lives and need and want a sense of well-being. Do we pay attention to the primacy of those needs within ourselves and seek to meet them or do we focus our attention solely on the hit of a response to a text message?

The things we pay attention to are often what we manifest in our lives. So it is useful to inventory and review the things we feed with our attention. The things we feed with our attention often become habituated. Do you feed your hope or your cynicism, for example? Do you feed competitiveness, your jealousies, your grudges, your feelings of being unappreciated? Or do you feed joy and love and friendship and fun?

Attention seeking is also a way to try to staunch the pain, frustration and even despair of loneliness. As connected as we all are, there is a lot of loneliness out there in our world and that loneliness will not be assuaged by surface level connection. The worst loneliness is being lonely in a loving relationship or even when surrounded by friends. I have long referred to it as the howl of loneliness wherein the sense of isolation and alienation and even despair can be so overwhelming that there seems no way out. Many of us have all felt, at one time or another in our lives, that unanswered and unanswerable howl.

I have a column planned on the subject of loneliness as it is a big subject, just as is attention. But one of the surest symptoms of loneliness is becoming consumed with being superficially popular. That driving need to be popular, having lots and lots of superficial friends and acquaintances but none of those relationships having any depth or substance. How many people do you know who make no distinction between acquaintances and real friends? Real friends – the people who will drop everything and be there – good times and bad – when you need and/or want them there. Ask Dickens wrote in Nicholas Nickleby, “Family not only need to consist of merely those whom we share blood, but also for those whom we’d give blood.”

The need for attention and the desire to staunch the howl of loneliness often replaces, for many, the real need of affection. The withdrawal of affection or, even worse, the absence of affection from those we love or care about threatens to leave us lonely and alone. And that loss or absence of affection causes pain, real mental, emotional and spiritual pain. The Dalai Lama said, “We can live without religion and meditation, but we cannot survive without human affection.”

We all need affection and that need for genuine affection is something worth paying attention to. Our friends at Oxford Languages via Google say that affection is “a gentle feeling of fondness or liking.” If you look at the many definitions of affection available online, fondness is one of the most common words used in relation to describing what affection is. Merriam-Webster.com also defines affection as, “a feeling of liking and caring for someone or something.” We all want to be liked and cared for and have people feel fond of us. Yes, love is also included in affection but it need not be what we feel to feel affectionate toward someone. “Affectionate attachment” is another term found commonly.

There are all kinds of ways to express or give affection. Physically things like cuddling, holding hands, hugging, etc. Words of affirmation; acts of service; receiving gifts; quality time; and physical touch are commonly associated with ways affection is shown or given. These five things are often associated with what has come to be called the languages of love but they are ways of expressing and receiving affection.

It is an important need. Yet do we pay any attention to giving affection to ourselves or is it always better if someone else gives it to us? How do we give ourselves any affirmation about who we are and what we do and accomplish and who we are becoming? What acts of service do we provide for ourselves or do we tend to treat ourselves in a very utilitarian manner? What do we give of ourselves, to ourselves, like our humor, compassion, intellect, patience? Can we spend quality time alone with ourselves or would we rather chew glass than be alone with ourselves? When was the last time you made yourself laugh because you thought of something funny that only you would understand?

Too often in our current world people substitute and settle for attention, any kind of attention, any port in a storm, rather than seek and cultivate real affection from themselves and from others. Attention, as discussed above, is valuable and essential in our lives but it will not replace the genuine need for affection. Affection, like trust, is something that grows and is earned over time. There is no easy or quick fix to meeting that need. So, by all means, grab all the attention you think or feel you need and want but be careful about thinking it will meet the deeper and more important need of genuine affection.

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Being Liked as a Manipulation

We all need and want to be liked. In being liked we get positive attention from others and that makes us feel valued and worthwhile. It helps us to feel that we are on equal footing with others. It is nice to know that others hold us in high esteem. Nothing sends us over the edge as quickly as when other people ignore us or deem us unworthy of their attention.

In our current Age of Social Media, many of us have become experts in “getting” people to like us. Lots of people openly express the idea that they love social media because you can present yourself as anyone you want to be or pretend to be. Doesn’t matter if that image is real or not. One Gen Z’er I recently spoke to is planning his own You Tube channel wherein he will play a character that is not himself but in so presenting this character, he hopes to gain a following and he tells me that lots of people do this. You get liked and you get followed and, hopefully, you eventually find a way to monetize your presentation and make money presenting yourself as someone else.

As a form of programming or publishing, I think that this is basically no different than an author presenting new characters in books or likeable characters in movies or television. The problem here is that these people are not real. So, in presenting yourself as someone you are not, you are still not being liked for who you actually are and you have to keep up the artifice or face significant backlash from your online community. But, for a group of our compatriots, this level and fashion of being liked may be fine, at least for a while. But it still is a paper-thin level of being liked and accepted, and what happens if and when your 15 minutes is over?

All of that said, that discussion is for another time. What I want to talk about here is about the people who in “real life,” whether that is in the workplace or with friends or family, manipulate you into liking them so they can get what they want out of the relationship - but nothing of value or mattering comes back from them. These are usually people who are, on the surface, very likeable people. They are most often very talkative and personable and almost constantly in motion, at least when you are watching. But they are also, underneath all of the collegiality and bonhomie, getting away with murder.

Some examples. Let’s start with work. Years ago, I bartended with a nice enough looking young guy who used his looks to get in good with our female manager. She walked it right up to the line in giving him preferred shifts and scheduling but not enough for anyone to accuse her of favoritism. Problem was that he wasn’t that good a bartender and didn’t really want to work that hard. What he was willing to work hard at was getting what he wanted from his manager and maintained a passable level of civility with the rest of his co-workers.

He certainly never went above or beyond for anything or anybody. One day his manager had to call him out about something that needed correction and she did it in front of other staff. It was procedural and the correction could have applied to any of us and was thus more of a reminder to all in hearing distance than it was a personal attack on him. He escalated the argument, attacking her and it went back and forth until he said something nasty to her and she announced, in front of the other staff, that he was a “lousy fuck.” Needless to say, neither his nor her employment lasted much longer at this particular establishment. But he had gotten what he wanted for as long as he could until it was time to move on.

How about the person in the office who is always fun and friendly and willing to briefly help others but never gets their own work done? They talk a great game. They suck up to management, who think them delightful. They get the scheduling they want. They get the time off they want. Senior management is always stopping to talk with them. Sometimes they even get to flout the dress code when no one else does. They often talk and talk and talk constantly and the rest of the staff likes them until they begin to realize that they never complete anything and, in many cases, never start anything they really don’t want to do. But they get away with it because they’re always so busy, busy, busy with everything and everyone else that for a while they can make it look like they are working themself to death. One particular woman was busy having fun with her co-workers and drinking on the job. She was popular, and on occasion did do enough work that she could show some accomplishments. But over time, people began to realize she was hardly ever at her desk. She was here and there and yon but rarely ever actually applying herself to her actual work. But they liked her.

A similar version of this was a young guy who was also a big talker. Talked mostly about himself and what he was doing and his exploits way from work, as did the lady above. But when he was unable to avoid a work task, he would do it but at a plodding snail’s pace. Regardless of the complexity of the task, it was done at a pace that was just above glacial. Usually someone would step in and help or take it over for him as otherwise he would never be finished. He often resented being told what to do and made no bones talking badly about managers who made demands on him, making sure that we knew he thought they are all assholes and not to be trusted. But he was well liked by staff and management and he moved on just as soon as more was expected of him. But until then, he got whatever he wanted and never did anything he didn’t want to do or could get out of because he got people to like him.

The point in these examples is that sooner or later people will see through the artifice. As the old saying goes, you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. Eventually people will see through the constant talking, all the busy activity that accomplishes nothing and will also begin to resent the sucking up to those who they think can do them some good.  So, it goes with the friends or family from whom they take and take and give nothing back. You can’t help liking them until you get tired of being manipulated into giving them what they want, but when you actually need them, they are nowhere to be found. And the best part is that, in whatever circumstance, when you or someone else finally has had enough and says no to them, they feel a self-righteous sense of betrayal and abandonment. But when you finally say no it is because you are so tired of the constant barrage of talk that actually says nothing substantial and activity used to camouflage who they really are and what they really are about, that you feel nothing but relief.

Whether online as a persona in cyber space or in the actual living of life out among the other humans, people will watch you and figure out who you really are through your behavior. Behavior doesn’t lie. Why? Because, in general, people wind up doing the things they really want to do and they don’t do or procrastinate until the end of time the things they don’t really want to do, regardless of what they say. As charming or fun or personable or interesting as someone may present themselves to be, the truth will out as to whether there is any real substance there.

Playwright and poet Ben Jonson was named England's first ever Poet Laureate in 1616. (Wikipedia) He wrote, "True happiness Consists not in the multitude of friends, But in the worth and choice." Who you choose to be and become will reflect and express your true worth to yourself. And others will see whether there is someone of depth and consequence there through your actions and behavior, regardless of what comes out of your mouth and regardless of all the activity you use to distract others from seeing the truth of your being. Make good choices as to who you are as it will raise your value and worth to others and, most especially, to yourself. And it will spare you a lot of tap dancing.

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Living Skills offers positive psychology counseling, spiritual counseling, and life coaching services in Atlanta, and online. We are sensitive to the needs of the LGBT community. Sessions available by Skype. Please email us at livingskillsinc@gmail.com or visit www.livingskills.pro. Podcast: “The Problem with Humans” now available on Apple Podcasts, Buzzsprout, Google Podcast, Amazon Music, and Spotify, Overcast, Castro, Castbox, and Podfriend, as well as on my site. Follow us on Twitter - @livingskillsinc